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PL2016083




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Summary
PL2016083
John Knox Village Meadows - Public and Private Sanitary Sewer and Water Line Engineering Plans
Engineering Plan Review
Engineering Plan Review
Approved
04/21/2016
JOHN KNOX VILLAGE
Part of these plans include the "private" sanitary sewer which John Knox Village is going to take over from the City. The portion of the line that John Knox will take over were either too close to buldings or too deep, and hence, Water Utilities (i.e., Jeff Thorn) approved the concept of allowing a portion of the sanitary line to revert to "private" status (i.e., John Knox will maintain them). We asked that the public and private sanitary sewer be included on one (1) plan set since this was a "special case". Normally, private sanitary sewer lines would not be included in a public plan set.
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JOHN KNOX VILLAGE, Address:400 NW MURRAY RD  
Reviews
Review Type Outcome Est. Completion Date Completed
Engineering Review Corrections 05/25/2016 01/12/2018
Mike Weisenborn
Corrective Action Required
05/25/2016

WATER LINE PLANS: The water line along Shamrock Avenue and diverting around the new building is a public line, not a private line as shown on the profile view.
Corrective Action Required
05/25/2016

WATER LINE PLANS: The profile view, which was not provided on the first submittal, shows instances of excessive depth. This includes station 2+00, 4+00, and station 7+00. The maximum cover over the top of pipe is seven (7) feet. Finally, the profile view shows conflicting information on the water line. It appears 12" water line is called-out in certain instances, while in other instances, 8" is called-out.
Corrective Action Required
05/25/2016

SANITARY SEWER PLANS: Please refer to comment #7 of the previous comment letter dated April 25, 2016. It appears the incoming flowline elevations are not shown at manhole #29-071. Please be aware of the minimum drops required at this location, especially for the high angles of deflection from the incoming sewer lines.
Corrective Action Required
05/25/2016

Please be aware that the Engineer's Estimate of Probable Construction Costs must be revised to reflect what is being constructed for the water and sanitary sewer plans. It was difficult to determine costs for the Final Development Plan versus the separate water and sanitary sewer plans.
Corrective Action Required
05/25/2016

Please be aware that two (2) full size and two (2) half size sets are required for your final submittal drawings. Electronic copies are also required as specified below.
Engineering Review Corrections 05/11/2016 04/25/2016
Gene Williams, P.E.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Please be aware these comments are focused on the public water line relocation and public sanitary sewer line relocation, but comments on the private fire lines and private sanitary sewers will also be included in this comment letter.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Please be aware that the City is not self-permitting for water or sanitary sewer. However, the City will only require an MDNR permit for the sanitary sewer since the public water line is essentially being placed in the same location and upsized. After the sanitary sewer plan is approvable by the City, a concurrence letter will be generated by the City for the sanitary sewer plans, and submitted to the applicant. This letter will need to be attached to the MDNR construction permit application. For the sanitary sewer, a letter will also be required from the receiving sanitary sewer authority, the Little Blue Valley Sewer District (LBVSD). The contact person at the LBVSD is David Lilly, 816-796-9191.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Toward the northwest portion of the project, an easement is shown for the water line, along with a dead end plug. This line should be designed as "private", and no easement should be designated or platted for it. Finally, the end of the line should be terminated in an "in-line" temporary fire hydrant assembly, and a backflow vault should be shown near the public main along with a gate valve prior to the vault for this private fire line extension. The backflow vault should be located outside any easements, on the private side, and within six (6) feet of the easement.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

A note is provided at the intersection of O'Brien Rd. and Shamrock stating "...cap existing 6" water". This tee should be removed and replaced with the new 8" tee.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

There appears to be an extra note toward this same intersection (northeast corner) stating "8" PVC" that doesn't appear to be shown correctly. Please review and correct as necessary.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Sheet 8 of the Sanitary Sewer Profile: Please call-out the City manhole number on the existing sanitary sewer manhole toward the northeast of the project. It is #29-071.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Sheet 8 of the Sanitary Sewer Profile SS Line 1: Please show the existing flow lines of all incoming sanitary sewers, including the north, the northeast, and the south.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Sheet 8 of the Sanitary Sewer Profile SS Line 1: Please refer to the minimum drops that are required for the high deflection angles at this junction. This is contained within the City of Lee's Summit Design and Construction Manual.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Sheet 8 of the Sanitary Sewer Profile SS Line 1: Please refer to the Design and Construction Manual concerning the connection at sanitary manhole #29-071. As required by the Design and Construction Manual, when a smaller sewer joins a large one, the invert of the larger sewer should be lowered sufficiently to maintain the same energy gradient. An approximate method for accomplishing this is to place the 0.8 depth point of both sewers at the same elevation.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

It does not appear that the sanitary sewer line will meet the distance requirements from the public water line along the west side of the project. In general, ten (10) feet is required as measured from the outside of the pipe.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Please show the City manhole number for the nearest connection at the southeast portion of the project. This manhole is #29-089 and is immediately downstream of the new manhole to be constructed at the connection point.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Please show the incoming flow line elevations of the new connection point at the southeast corner of the project. Please provide the same design standards as described in the prevous comments. It would appear a miniimum of 0.5 feet of fall would need to be provided in this instance.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Please call-out the existing manhole number at the west side of the project (i.e., the common connection point for SS Line 1 and SS Line 2). This manhole is #29-083.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Profile View of SS Line 1: Please label this line as "public".
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

It would appear that the sanitary sewer line running roughly east/west from station 0+00 on SS Line 1 to the west to station 0+00 on SS Line 2, should be public rather than private. A profile view of this segment appears to be missing.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

The same segment discussed above (i.e., the public segment from station 0+00 on SS Line 1 to the west) appears to be too close to the storm sewer towards the daylight end of the two (2) 60" storm lines. Please provide additional manholes to avoid conflicts with the two (2) 60" storm lines and the concrete headwall and energy dissipation structures.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

The manhole at station 3+46 on SS Line 1 only shows a 0.2 foot drop. Since the deflection angle is near 90 degrees, a minimum drop of 0.5 feet is required.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Sheet 8: SS Line 2 on the profile view states "...connect to existing manhole". According to the plan view, this is a new manhole. Please show a new manhole (doghouse manholes not allowed), and ensure that the minimum 0.5 foot drop for the high deflection angle is achieved.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Sheet 8: It appears that the manhole for SS Line 1 at station 0+00 is below proposed grade. Please review and correct.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Sheet 8: It is not clear where the top of the manhole rim is in relation to proposed grade for SS Line 2 at station 1+23.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Sheet 8: It appears the manhole on SS Line 1 at station 11+29 is extending four (4) feet above proposed grade. Is there a reason for this? In general, this is not allowed even if future grading will take place. If future grading will take place, the manhole should be adjusted at that time.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Water Line Plans: It did not appear that a profile view was submitted for the public water line plans. These are only required for the public portion of the water line plans (i.e., not the private fire lines, domestic services, or public fire hydrants along O'Brien Rd. and Moore St.). Please show a minimum cover of 3.5 feet, with a maximum cover of 7 feet, both measured from the top of pipe to the proposed grade.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

Please be aware that sanitary sewer easements, water line easements, and general utility easements will be required prior to the issuance of a Certificate of Substantial Completion. Also, the vacation of existing easements will be coordinated during construction for those portions of public utiilities being relocated.
Corrective Action Required
04/25/2016

An itemized and sealed Engineer's Estimate of Probable Construction Costs will be required prior to approval. The Engineering Plan Review and Inspection Fee is based on this estimate, plus a $100 per trip fee for the observation and collection of water samples. Please see the previous applicant letter for the Final Development Plan for specific items to include in this estimate.
Hearings

There are no hearings for this planning application.

Documents & Images
Date Uploaded File Type Document Name
04/25/2016 Letter PW-Comment Letter (Engineering Plans)
05/25/2016 Letter PW-Comment Letter (Engineering Plans)
06/21/2016 Letter PW-Engineering Approval Letter
10/30/2017 Activity Document Fee WorksheetUpdatedDevCenterWaterandSewer
10/30/2017 Activity Document MDNR Concurrence Letter
10/30/2017 Activity Document MDNRConcurrenceSanitary
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